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Here is a blog about my St Tropez's return to her former glory. I bought my St Tropez in July 2010 from a chap in Darwen for £265, knowing it was going to need sorting out. I'd been looking for a BX14 because of the cheaper road tax but also because I'd previously owned a 1988 BX14 Flight which I'd enjoyed owning.

Obvious point here - buying cars on eBay auctions is a bit of a lottery unless you can eyeball the car beforehand. Darwen was too far away for me to view so I had to rely on the description and any checks I could make. The car had an MOT and came back on checks as a legitimate car. I won the auction but when I saw the car in the flesh, it was clear the seller hadn't been very straight about the rear-end bodywork and it was a lot more crusty than he'd led me to believe.

We did the paperwork and I headed south. In spite of the bodywork, I was quite happy with the way the car drove and she bimbled along in quite a sprightly fashion down the motorway. My happiness evaporated on the Bayswater Road when she overheated. It explained the old coke bottles full of water that the previous owner had stashed behind the front bulkhead and his vague reasons for selling ("Couldn't get on with it").

To cut a long story short, the headgasket was blown and there were a host of other bits that needed fixing. By September, she was roadworthy - skimmed head, welding, water pump and timing belt and a year's MOT. By the following February, I was getting some odd noises from the rear and the rear arm bearings were shot, so they got done, along with a set of new spheres and hydraulic regulator, which had gone.

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BX with new rear arm bearings on a red wine replen trip at Douai, February 2011

Around the same time, I was lucky enough to source replacement rear wing panels to replace the existing items but decided to wait until I could find a good Citroen-friendly bodywork shop who could do a great job. In any event, the mechanical side of the car was sorted, even if the bodywork was a tad imperfect. In the summer of 2011, I took her on a faultless 2000-mile trip to the Pyrenees for a fortnight. She was fully laden with all the usual paraphenalia for a camping & touring trip and tackled all the steep, twisty bits with dignity and aplomb.

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This is a municipal car park, Pyrenees Orientales style.

I was very happy with that performance as you might expect and in September, she passed her MOT without any dramas. The following year, the garage warned me about the dreaded tinworm that was burrowing into the front subframe and inner sills, as well as the more obvious evidence at the back end. Tim Leech came to the rescue with a replacement subframe and I had by then decided to get the whole restoration job done by Rob Moss at Chevronic.

That brings the story more or less up to date. I'm going to post up some photos as the restoration progresses. Rob is posting them on Facebook as well (Mat has all ready been peeking! :D ), but if you can't be bothered to track that down, all the gory details will be posted here.

There may be a possibility she will be ready in time for the CCC meet this summer. :D
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:) I thought it must be yours!
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mat_fenwick wrote::) I thought it must be yours!
^ I was wondering too!

Fab write up, keep it coming please :D
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I took the St Tropez into Chevronic for Rob to get a good look at her at the end of March. I didn't forget to load up the replacement front subframe or the rear panels either! When I got there, I also got to have a good ogle at some lovely Citroens, as well as an encouragingly wide range of parts that are normally deemed to be 'hard-to-find'. Rob put the St Tropez on the ramp and we had a good poke around at the rust. It had got even worse since October and I'm happy to have caught it before it got even worse. No way was it going to pass another MOT in that state!

We had a chat about cost options and resprays and then I left Rob with the keys and the daunting task of turning a rustbucket into a gem. One of the problems would be reproducing the St Tropez graphics. I assumed original sets would be impossible to source, so they would have to be made up to order. I took a full set of photos - here's a representative picture:

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C Pillar St Tropez graphics

Most of the graphics are looking pretty tired and the pin-striping is fading, except for where I've inadvertently T-cut the stripe with over-enthusiasm. White stripe on white paint work. Hmmm!

So this week, after all the ongoing discussions with Rob about the restoration have resulted in a Plan, he has begun the work. As I was anticipating, most of the serious work is in the rear of the car. Rob wondered whether she'd lived at the seaside and he might have a point - in the rather minimal paperwork I got from the previous owner was a receipt from a garage in Redcar. Anyway, the seats came out and the tank and rear bumper came off, to reveal the horrors that lurk behind the plastic.

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Boot floor and rear seats removed

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Fuel tank out

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The naked truth - bumper off to reveal a rusty cross member

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NS boot corner with evidence of previous butchery, sorry, welding

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The OS isn't that much better...

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and here's the crumbly spare wheel carrier

I reckon if I started wire-brushing the rust off the spare wheel carrier, I'd end up with a coat hanger before getting down to sound metal.

So while all of that's been going on, I've been playing with my photos of the tailgate graphics. I expect Phil Chidlow could probably knock something far better out in a matter of minutes, but I've only got some really basic tools (Paint & Picasa) and worked this up into something vaguely fit-for-purpose.

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St Tropez graphics

And yes, before the Cit Police get me, I did add the extra red stripe under the 'pez'! I could have been a lot worse as I had a few 'creative moments along the way and came up with the following retro diversions. Rather 80s, I thought, but definitely running the risk of getting thrown off the forum had I persisted!

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This one reminds me of an ex-girlfriend's dungarees for some strange reason!

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Can't help myself, I do like this one...
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Well done Des, keep the faith!
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Chevronics have posted up a video on FB Tim.
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The video (screenshot below) shows the rear subframe being dropped off the shell. All the bits will come off before it is sent off to be shotblasted and powder-coated. It's nice to see that even professionals improvise - in this case a wheelie-bin becomes a handy support.

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Handy to catch rusty bits of the car too, as they fall off ;)
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mat_fenwick wrote:Handy to catch rusty bits of the car too, as they fall off ;)

Umm, only if you remember to open the lid first Mat lol.
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What, these rusty bits? They might be important!

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Parts for plating

Well there's a few more photos been uploaded today. Now the subframe is out, all the gubbins can be taken off it and I can report that it's with the shot-blaster to be stripped back to bare metal.

A last view here of the offside rear wing and the nasty bodge job on the fuel filler. I'm pretty certain there's a veritable pile of rusty sediment swilling around in the bottom of the tank and most of it probably started life as part of the rear wing!

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rusty filler cap area

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The subframe out and green blood draining prior to disassembly...

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Spheres and discs removed from the subframe

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NS inner sill in front of rear wheel arch - now how did that get missed in the MOT???

So all in all, a rather busy week for the St Tropez! It's looking rather sad and shell-like, especially in the video. If you want to see it, here's the link to the Chevronic Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=49 ... =2&theater
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I'm rather glad your filler cap area was rusty, as it struck me late last night that if it wasn't I could have bought the remains of your old panel after it had been replaced! The inner sill is concerning; how long has it been since the last MOT?

Regarding the stickers, I quite like the black one too - would be a nice contrast on a white car. IMO it'd be a subtle unique twist to have, but I may get shot down by the purists for saying so...
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mat_fenwick wrote:
Regarding the stickers, I quite like the black one too - would be a nice contrast on a white car. IMO it'd be a subtle unique twist to have, but I may get shot down by the purists for saying so...

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=D> for putting your hand in your pocket for all this Des - I know Rob will do you a fantastic job (even if you have to have deep pockets!). I shall be over there at some point in the next few weeks and will hope to be able to look at the real thing 8)
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mat_fenwick wrote:The inner sill is concerning; how long has it been since the last MOT?
Um.... five months. And before you make any hasty conclusions, we have a virulent form of mutating tinworm in SE London that burrows deep inside the metal and then pops out all of a sudden. Honest, guv! :^o
Caffiend wrote:I know Rob will do you a fantastic job (even if you have to have deep pockets!). I shall be over there at some point in the next few weeks and will hope to be able to look at the real thing 8)
Yes, I've already parted with the first wedge and had to go for bereavement counselling as a result. I gave Rob a budget and made the mistake of telling him I could stretch to more, so it did. I know that he will do a brilliant job, having seen finished cars in the flesh and on photos and they are truly amazing. The whole idea of photographing and videoing the work in progress is quite unique in my experience and quite addictive. It is also reassuring to know that your pride & joy is being well-treated.

I suspect there are people on the forum who think I am nuts for restoring a basic model BX, but this car and I have already gone too far down the road for me to consider scrapping. This was clearly on the cards once I knew the underside needed extensive work and while I could have sold her on with a year's MOT, any buyer would probably have had her cubed a year later.

Besides, I love the number plate, which reminds me... this turned up from Dublin yesterday and will take pride of place at the pointy end when the restoration is complete! Not sure why a company in Dublin can make up plates for UK cars. The last set of plates I had made up needed a ream of ID checks to prove the car was mine - nothing needed for this one, so I assume there's a facility for plate makers to check on their customers through the DVLA database. Amazingly, the rear plate is still the original item fitted by Clarke & Rodway in Marlborough and it is in great nick. Even more amazing is that Clarke & Rodway are still selling Citroens over 40 years after they first became Citroen agents! Not often a car business lasts that long.

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Hopefully, Sandre, you will get to eyeball the car, or what's left of it. I don't know what bits are coming off next, but I would guess the front bumper and wings will be coming off soon and the old rear wings will also need to be cut off in preparation for the new items. Whatever is left will be attached to a BX Club sticker in the rear windscreen.
mat_fenwick wrote:I'm rather glad your filler cap area was rusty, as it struck me late last night that if it wasn't I could have bought the remains of your old panel after it had been replaced!
I rather think I would have been having your old panel Mat! The original has completely crumbled away and the 'new' insert is also 95% rust. A real quality bodge by someone in the past.
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Des Smith wrote: I suspect there are people on the forum who think I am nuts for restoring a basic model BX.
Not many I suspect. I think it's brilliant that it's getting a root and branch going over; your car, your dosh, your rules. I'm pretty sure the pleasure of seeing it all finished and looking gorgeous will more than compensate for being homeless (it would me)! :D
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