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Oscar
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The thieving drug-dealing oxygen thief up the road deliberately opened Groliffe's passenger door onto a lamppost the other day, putting a 2-foot long dent into it and wrinkling the top seam. The coppers, to their credit, took it seriously and got him down the station for a talking to. He can't afford coppers poking about in his private life.
I shall wait until we move house and wreak my revenge.....
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Defender110
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I would seam to me that Groliffe is just not getting settled with you Oscar?
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Oscar
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Swampy's revenge, I think.
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| Quote: | | Your concepts on the car design are good ways to remove some problems in car designs. But, it could give some problems on manufacturers. You just have to be careful in that thing actually. |
Agreed - but design departments are dealing with problems all day long - it's what they do.
There's very little innovation involved in design - most of the effort deals with fettling the design to be capable of being produced satisfactorily - and that invariably involves compromise.
For example - Phil's idea about making bumpers in smaller modules that can be replaced more easily - a good idea no doubt about that - but in a corner to corner accident the bumper could be required to act as one piece to spread the impact load and provide the required protection to the passenger compartment. This could be engineered of course - but it's extra engineering effort (which cost is factored into the final product) where a single piece bumper is cheaper to make, cheaper to fit, and doesn't increase the price of the car on the forecourt. The single piece bumper is probably also lighter so power to weight ratio is better - not by much but if you modify everything on the car so it is improved the weight soon starts to add up.
On the forecourt it's a case of 'how many bangs for your buck' so cars with a lot of extra design features tend to be more expensive. Some manufacturers have, at times, tried to include additional innovation within the design function - Citroën are particularly good at this. A while ago Ford took a different but equally valid approach by taking design items (such as electrically adjustable mirrors) which were designed for the top-of-the-range vehicles and made the effort to reduce production costs of these items - making them easier to manufacture and lighter where possible - when the savings of higher volume production was added to this they could be fitted without significant cost penalty to cars in the lower price brackets.
So high volume production design is always a compromise - the question when choosing a car is which compromises can I live with.
I have issues with designs that could have been better with a little extra thought, or where the emphasis is on bling rather than effectiveness - form before function.
| Quote: | | Make it law that a blown headlight/tail bulb must be able to be replaced by the driver on the roadside, in the dark within 10 mins with no tools. |
I almost agree Phil  I'd say 2 minutes rather than 10 - and I'd add the rider that access must be through the bonnet or boot so that it's more likely to be the owner gaining access to the lighting module rather than some ne'erdowell nicking the light unit But that could be engineered - no problem - so the question remains - why is it not being done this way.
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