Wheel studs needed for speedlines

Boxwolf · Post by **Boxwolf** » Fri May 29, 2009 11:55 am

Sorry Matt, I'm afraid these are the wrong type for my wheels. I think these are for 6J speedlines. I should have mentioned that mine were the narrower GTI speedlines rather than the 6Js.

Phil, do you still have yours, and are they the type I need? (left in image)

Philip Chidlow · Post by **Philip Chidlow** » Fri May 29, 2009 11:59 am

No mine are the same as the ones in the right of the image. Sorry!

Post by **Tim Leech** » Fri May 29, 2009 12:30 pm

How many do you need? I do have some spares but I was keeping them in case I get some speedlines for the TRS, this looks unlikely though now.

mike st gilles · Post by **mike st gilles** » Fri May 29, 2009 12:31 pm

Broken Wheel nuts? I would be very concerned as to why they broke! You say that you cross threaded them....but then how much pressure were you exerting to do them up! Wheel nuts (especially on alloy wheels) should only be tightened to the recommended torque setting as per the book.
Whenever I get new tyres put on I never let a fitter near mine with one of those air wrenches; always take my torque wrench with me and do it myself. Get yourself a torque wrench or borrow one, set it to the right torque and you'll be surprised at just how little torque (force) is recommended/required.

Boxwolf · Post by **Boxwolf** » Fri May 29, 2009 4:10 pm

Tim, I need four of them, although only one of the rear ones has been checked so how much would you want for the whole set?

Mike, it turns out it was a garage that broke them before I bought the car by using an air gun to tighten them too much (verified by rhv100), I have a wheelbrace already and thats all I ever use to tighten them.

Boxwolf · Post by **Boxwolf** » Fri May 29, 2009 8:03 pm

Is there anywhere (shops or internet) that stock these studs? I dont think the ones Tim has are suitable as they came off aftermarket wheels rather than speedlines.

Matt H · Post by **Matt H** » Fri May 29, 2009 9:43 pm

Ahhh... Sorry, I didn't think!

I honestly think 5.5j alloys must be rarer now, although they actually look identicle to 205 GTi bolts.

eBay link

Might want to check that before you buy 'em though, as i've never owned any 5.5j Speedlines before.

Boxwolf · Post by **Boxwolf** » Fri May 29, 2009 10:56 pm

Those look just like the ones, I guess they were used on multiple PSA alloy wheels. If I haven't found any by the time that auction ends I'll get them.

Need to get the BX back on the road ASAP and those studs are the only thing stopping me.

RxBX · Post by **RxBX** » Sat May 30, 2009 12:00 am

Hi Boxwolf,
5.5" or 6 " Speed-lines should use the one's as on the Right-Hand side in the photo you posted,

The one on the Left-hand side look to me, as ones which come off a PUG which has already been pointed out !

RxBX

jonathan_dyane · Post by **jonathan_dyane** » Sat May 30, 2009 12:20 am

I could well be wrong here, as I have never had a BX with alloys, but could it be that the reason that your bolts stripped is that *they* are the wrong ones and aren't long enough?

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » Sat May 30, 2009 12:30 am

jonathan_dyane wrote:I could well be wrong here, as I have never had a BX with alloys, but could it be that the reason that your bolts stripped is that *they* are the wrong ones and aren't long enough?

Thats a very good point jonathan!

Looking at the photo the stripping is on the end of the thread and when you take into account that there is a chamfer at the start there probably isn't enough bolt into the hub!

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Sat May 30, 2009 12:30 am

It would seem strange that the 5.5J wheels would have a thinner section where the bolts are...as the forces experienced would be identical. IMO, the area where the threads are stripped looks shorter than required. I can check the elngth of the 5.5J 205 bolts tomorrow if needed.

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Sat May 30, 2009 12:31 am

Aha, beat me to it Mr 2go!

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » Sat May 30, 2009 12:34 am

mat_fenwick wrote:Aha, beat me to it Mr 2go!

Great minds thinking alike eh?

RxBX · Post by **RxBX** » Sat May 30, 2009 1:03 am

Boxwolf,
General engineering nuts/bolts TEND to be as follows:-
Nuts are Grade 8 and Bolts 8.8 this is so as to 'Allow a nut to strip it's threads' if over tightened or cross threaded before/rather than the bolt so that you can replace the nut (Female thread) which is usually easier and cheaper than a bolt (Male thread) to manufacture !
So as has already has been pointed out if the stud-bolt (Male thread/stronger material) has had its thread 'Torn' .
What has happened to the hub side (Female thread) ? relative to it's integrity and safety of actually been able to hold/retain a wheel on to its hub as originally designed for ?
You need to check if the hub threads (Female) have been Mashed ?
If they have for safety sake you will need to have new hubs fitted or have the hub repaired with S/S Helicoils fitted

Best of luck in your findings.

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