Pipes with ends where there shouldn't be.

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Pipes with ends where there shouldn't be.

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Hello

Day off today, so went to have a tinker.

Thought I'd try some strut lubing, which as an aside seems to have been a success.

While looking at the nearside strut from the wheel arch end of things (with the wheel off), I spotted four(!) broken off ends of pipe, clearly all meant to have been attached to each other.

I include photographs of said pipes. One of them ("3" in the picture) looks like it has had a length of metal pipe patched in? Also a picture from the off side which is I assume what it should look like.

So, any thoughts on what to do. It doesn't look like the end of the world. Is it worth patching these, or new lengths?

I hadn't noticed any particular symptoms from the car, other than as I was taking the wheel off a few drops of LHM dribbled on to the floor.


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The leakage return and breather hoses of the front struts have a tendency to crack, and if they are left unattended, the hydraulic system sucks in water and impurities (here, the worst being road salt). If you notice a broken hose and can't replace it immediately, putting in a pipe as has been done to yours is an OK system to postpone the change for a while, but if this temporary fix is left in permanently, it will eventually crack again as has apparently occured in your car.

Changing the hose is a minor job, and driving with the broken hoses will quickly contaminate the hydraulic system, so I would get the new part and replace it immediately, and then flush the hydraulic system. The contamination problem may be a bit less severe over there (I suppose they don't use the salt so much on the roads), but it's a problem nevertheless.

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Ok, that seems to make sense, thanks for the quick reply Riku.

These pipes are push fit are they?

Does anyone have a part number for these, or is it off the shelf tubing cut to length?

Luckily we haven't had a cold winter here, so no salt on the roads, but it has been pretty wet. System flush sounds like a plan regardless.

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Yes these are just strutt return pipes that will leak LHM bypassed by your strutts. I have tried to repair better condition ones than these on several occasions only for them to fail again. I have come to the conclusion they are not repairable and simply must be replaced for long term reliability.
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Post by rmattila »

They are push fit in the other end, and attached to the strut with a steel collar in the other end.

Leak back hose # 95 622 818

You might also consider a new collar, if the old one is in bad shape.

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Ok, brilliant. Definitely makes sense to replace.

So is this a dealer part or will a parts shop have them?

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Wooscary wrote:Ok, brilliant. Definitely makes sense to replace.

So is this a dealer part or will a parts shop have them?
They arent THAT much from Citroen, less than £20 if I remember rightly.

Sometimes you can find them on ebay.
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The metal clip can be a bit of a git to fit & it helps if you have the right tool or a pincer type equivalent, in order to get the clip fitting properly, even experienced bxer's can struggle sometimes :cry:
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Hmm, I'm fairly handy, so will give it a go, but expect me to come crying later!

Apparently my friendly dealer no longer do parts, which is annoying as on the very odd occasion when I've needed them, it's five minutes from my house.

Hmm.

Does anyone have any spares or know of another source? Ebay is drawing a blank at the moment.

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If I can't get the steel collar to fit, I use three cable ties instead and have never had a problem. Must be good quality though – I use some as used by the Post Office to close mail sacks and they're tough as old boots.
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Hi Martin,

This old thread may give you some ideas.

Good luck

http://www.bxclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic ... highlight=

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Decent cable ties sounds like a good plan, cheers.

And thanks for the link to that thread, useful stuff.

Just got to track some down now.

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Wooscary wrote:Decent cable ties sounds like a good plan, cheers.
Just remember to a: use the steel backing piece from the original collar to avoid distorting the mating face of the new pipe where it sits on the strut body, and b: don't try and over-tighten the cable ties - moderate pressure is enough.
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KevR wrote:If I can't get the steel collar to fit, I use three cable ties instead and have never had a problem. Must be good quality though – I use some as used by the Post Office to close mail sacks and they're tough as old boots.
I always use the metal clips now either re-used or replacement since the MOT man objected to the Cable ties in earlier days and gave it as a reason for failure.

Over-zealous and probably uncalled for I agree but then again, why give them reasons to be strict on this.

Incidentally the rubber leak-off pipes are available more cheaply at GSF but are a false economy as the rubber is so crap they barely last from one MOT to the next!
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Way2go wrote: Incidentally the rubber leak-off pipes are available more cheaply at GSF but are a false economy as the rubber is so crap they barely last from one MOT to the next!
same thing happened to me