Scoop! Lost tribe of Citroens living in Lincolnshire woods.

Post by **Tim Leech** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:26 pm

Did anyone spot the full set of contoured flaps on the Athena?

messerschmitt owner · Post by **messerschmitt owner** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:32 pm

Roverman wrote:
saintjamesy89 wrote:Why not? Are they like CX's and break lots?
If you cant mend them yourself I wouldnt, I do like them, especially the S1 cars but they are known to be very troublesome and quite expensive to mend if you have to use a garage!.

S1s have leccie issues, all diesels have head gasket issues (every 150,000 miles!!!!!) but you know overall the diesel XMs I have owned (and still own) are quite reliable. Everything electrical works on my XM, even the sunroof. It just goes and goes - the last problem was a snapped clutch cable - which was easier to fix than the pedal boxes on three of my four manual BXs.
My XM is my daily car, 18,000 miles in my first year of 0wnership, 14,000 so far this ownership year.

Post by **Tim Leech** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:38 pm

messerschmitt owner wrote:S1s have leccie issues, all diesels have head gasket issues (every 150,000 miles!!!!!) but you know overall the diesel XMs I have owned (and still own) are quite reliable. Everything electrical works on my XM, even the sunroof. It just goes and goes - the last problem was a snapped clutch cable - which was easier to fix than the pedal boxes on three of my four manual BXs.
My XM is my daily car, 18,000 miles in my first year of 0wnership, 14,000 so far this ownership year.

True but you would class yourself as "handy with the spanners" where Tom (any myself to a degree) arent, can you imagine how much a garage would charge to do a headgasket on a XM or a new window regulator.

A BX carb fed petrol is a quite simple prospect in comparison.

messerschmitt owner · Post by **messerschmitt owner** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:54 pm

Roverman wrote:
messerschmitt owner wrote:S1s have leccie issues, all diesels have head gasket issues (every 150,000 miles!!!!!) but you know overall the diesel XMs I have owned (and still own) are quite reliable. Everything electrical works on my XM, even the sunroof. It just goes and goes - the last problem was a snapped clutch cable - which was easier to fix than the pedal boxes on three of my four manual BXs.
My XM is my daily car, 18,000 miles in my first year of 0wnership, 14,000 so far this ownership year.
True but you would class yourself as "handy with the spanners" where Tom (any myself to a degree) arent, can you imagine how much a garage would charge to do a headgasket on a XM or a new window regulator.

A BX carb fed petrol is a quite simple prospect in comparison.

I am handy with the spanners but a Citroen independent specialist used to working on an XM will charge £1,300 inc Vat to do a head gasket - of course, that would also include an oil change, new water pump, coolant change, new cam belt and auxiliary belts plus a few other things.

Post by **Tim Leech** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:02 pm

messerschmitt owner wrote:
I am handy with the spanners but a Citroën independent specialist used to working on an XM will charge £1,300 inc Vat to do a head gasket - of course, that would also include an oil change, new water pump, coolant change, new cam belt and auxiliary belts plus a few other things.

I rest my case!

messerschmitt owner · Post by **messerschmitt owner** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:10 pm

Roverman wrote:
messerschmitt owner wrote:
I am handy with the spanners but a Citroën independent specialist used to working on an XM will charge £1,300 inc Vat to do a head gasket - of course, that would also include an oil change, new water pump, coolant change, new cam belt and auxiliary belts plus a few other things.
I rest my case!

yes, and your point is ...

a head gasket would be a once in a lifetime cost, invariably incurred due to lack of coolant change rather than any inherent design fault.

You don't get knackered pedal boxes, rear trailing arm bearings going, or other BX-common issues. It's horses for courses.

A head gasket in real terms is £650 inc Vat if you include the cost of a cambelt service at the same kind of money.

The difference is an XM can sell for more than a BX ever will.

There is no comparison on the driving experience. The XM is better overall and a much more competent car in almost every aspect

it's faster, roomier, better equipped, better seats, and so on. As a reliable everyday car my one fits the bill better than the BX. I've driven 500,000 miles in BXs and I'd rather the XM.

Of course, I shouldn't be saying this on a BX forum!

saintjamesy89 · Post by **saintjamesy89** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:12 pm

Roverman wrote:
messerschmitt owner wrote:S1s have leccie issues, all diesels have head gasket issues (every 150,000 miles!!!!!) but you know overall the diesel XMs I have owned (and still own) are quite reliable. Everything electrical works on my XM, even the sunroof. It just goes and goes - the last problem was a snapped clutch cable - which was easier to fix than the pedal boxes on three of my four manual BXs.
My XM is my daily car, 18,000 miles in my first year of 0wnership, 14,000 so far this ownership year.
True but you would class yourself as "handy with the spanners" where Tom (any myself to a degree) aren't

Hey, i'm learning! I've managed to do everything on my astra so far, apart from the tracking and a bit of welding, it's only been in the garage 5 times (3 of those were MOT tests).

I never really had time to play much with my 14. I didn't have it very long

Stupid kids on mopeds.

EDIT
It's usually a confidence issue with me, I hate it when bolts shear and leave you stuck until you can figure out how to remove them (usually via help from daddy)

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:02 pm

wow im in lincolnshire

near horncastle boston sleaford area.
love to go and have a look. Wonder if he will let me pay weekly

MULLEY · Post by **MULLEY** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:31 pm

Stop dreaming Paul

Even i wouldn't touch 99% of those cars, & i own tools etc....

Paul296 · Post by **Paul296** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:56 pm

MULLEY wrote:Stop dreaming Paul Even i wouldn't touch 99% of those cars, & i own tools etc....

I think Paul just wants to go and have a look - you old misery guts!

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:11 pm

need to learn one day wonder if he will let me have one to play with. Try and fix one up.
i mean play as in tinker with fix . Not sit in the car and make brum brum nioses lol

well i could do that as well

MULLEY · Post by **MULLEY** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:25 pm

I'd sit in some of those cars & make the brum brum noises, just wouldn't want to take them on

Post by **Tim Leech** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:50 pm

Paul and I have had requests from people wanting the address so they can go and have a nose, whilst I understand the excitement Syd did ask that we kept the location to ourselves. Paul is going to ring him and ask if and when its convenient for those interested to drop over one weekend and get some bits, chew the fat etc.

Im not trying to keep it to myself but it wouldnt be right for people to just pop up and start wandering around his property unannounced.

mds141 · Post by **mds141** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:06 pm

Back onto XM's briefly. I've had the 2.1 td VSX for a few months now and touch wood, had no problems. Mind you it does have a service history print off totalling 13 grand.

Post by **Tim Leech** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:20 pm

mds141 wrote:Back onto XM's briefly. I've had the 2.1 td VSX for a few months now and touch wood, had no problems. Mind you it does have a service history print off totalling 13 grand.

You forget to mention that youve not driven it either!