DS - A reluctant sale

Philip Chidlow · Post by **Philip Chidlow** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:02 pm

This is better:

Post by **Tim Leech** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:04 pm

Well done Phil looks better than the original IMHO.

jonathan_dyane · Post by **jonathan_dyane** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:36 pm

Very nicely done Phil!

I have to say though, I do prefer the original

Perhaps if the rear doors were different it would work for me better; I find the still-angled C-pillar problematic. Would be a cracking van tho!

Philip Chidlow · Post by **Philip Chidlow** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:41 pm

I think the thing would be to have a new rear door of course with a more upright trailing edge. The rendering I've done has not lengthened the original estate at all, I simply reduced the tailgate upper half's angle. I think so long (as here) the pillars were all black and the rear window was tinted it wouldn't be too bad. The estate as it is sort of emphasises the C pillar angle rather than 'ignore' it. I've seen other cars that have an angled pillar and a straight back e.g. the Freelander 3-door etc.

An interesting exercise, purely academic though!

jonathan_dyane · Post by **jonathan_dyane** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:19 pm

Philip Chidlow wrote:An interesting exercise, purely academic though!

Nah, surely now you have created an image of your perfect car, perhaps you should get a book out of the library on coach-building and now create a very unique BX...

MULLEY · Post by **MULLEY** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:22 pm

I've got to say, there's way too much glass on show, it looks like an aquarium on wheels

Philip Chidlow · Post by **Philip Chidlow** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:40 pm

MULLEY wrote:I've got to say, there's way too much glass on show, it looks like an aquarium on wheels

I didn't tackle that issue. I imagine you could thicken the rear pillar.

It's very Volvo-like now.

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:43 am

Philip Chidlow wrote: I didn't tackle that issue. I imagine you could thicken the rear pillar.

Theres no upright structure for the tail gate to close on to at present is there? It will need that for rigidity of body shell.

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:12 am

I don't think you need to worry about that too much. After all, Phil's picture is purely 2 dimensional, therefore will have no structural rigidity whatsoever...

cavmad · Post by **cavmad** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:55 am

[quote="jonathan_dyane

DavidRutherford wrote:
jonathan_dyane wrote: a 190D Estate would be a thing of great joy
Surely that market was taken by the W124 Estate? (along with its citroen derived self-levelling at the back.)

I guess MB thought so, but the W124 estate is a bit big. I don't know why, but I have always admired the 190...[/quote]

Then you, my friend, have taste! I have both, a 190E and a 200T and the 200T is bloody huge. Slowing it down requires patience, religious beliefs and luck. Mind you so does trying to build up speed but thata's another thing.

I like that Citroen estate and it seems to have a few cool things going on such as the seats in the boot, the dashboard and those funky back lights. I certainly wouldn't pay that much for it though.