Not sure if I should post this here or in 'BX Technical' but here goes.
Does anyone know where I can learn what the mechanical differences are (if any) - as distinct from trim differences - between a J-reg 19 TGD and a K-reg TXD diesel estate, please?
My newly acquired TXD has a much harder ride and seems rather more thirsty than my old TGD, but this may be because it needs attention.
Many thanks!
Difference Between 19 TGD and 19TXD
-
- Confirmed BX'er
- Posts: 57
- Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:19 pm
- x 1
-
- Over 2k
- Posts: 3940
- Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:25 pm
- Location: Wales
Re: Difference Between 19 TGD and 19TXD
No mechanical differences, though there might be random differences such as Bosch vs Lucas (luck of the draw, not spec related). The suspension could be many things from wrong spheres to just being worn out.
-
- Confirmed BX'er
- Posts: 57
- Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:19 pm
- x 1
Re: Difference Between 19 TGD and 19TXD
Thanks - that's just the clarification I was seeking.
Have now started the car up and "bounced" each corner - rear is a bit stiff and one front corner is rock solid, so among all the other bits I am going to salvage off my old TGD will be all the spheres.
At this rate, all the scrappy will get wil be an empty, stripped bodyshell with just a lonely, bare, waterlogged and seized-up cylinder block and crankcase lying in the front!
Have now started the car up and "bounced" each corner - rear is a bit stiff and one front corner is rock solid, so among all the other bits I am going to salvage off my old TGD will be all the spheres.
At this rate, all the scrappy will get wil be an empty, stripped bodyshell with just a lonely, bare, waterlogged and seized-up cylinder block and crankcase lying in the front!
-
- Over 2k
- Posts: 15625
- Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:12 am
- Location: Derbyshire
- My Cars: Various
- x 174
Re: Difference Between 19 TGD and 19TXD
As Ian says a TGD and TXD are mechanically the same, it was just a few pretty bits added when the car was getting on to keep sales up.
Lots of Motors, mostly semi broken....
-
- Over 2k
- Posts: 2380
- Joined: Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:20 am
- Location: Nouvelle Zealande
- x 4
Re: Difference Between 19 TGD and 19TXD
This is the point I lay claim to the only TXD Hatchback on the road in New Zealand 
Interesting about the fuel economy, what I have noticed about the TXD is it like to travel at 90-95kph (56mph) and in return gives me a better fuel efficancy of a substantial amount. Either that or the long hot summer temps have thinned the diesel down enough to give a better burn?
Sorry nothing else can input on this as this is the first Diesel BX I have owned of the dozen or so over the last 20 years. I like it though.

Interesting about the fuel economy, what I have noticed about the TXD is it like to travel at 90-95kph (56mph) and in return gives me a better fuel efficancy of a substantial amount. Either that or the long hot summer temps have thinned the diesel down enough to give a better burn?
Sorry nothing else can input on this as this is the first Diesel BX I have owned of the dozen or so over the last 20 years. I like it though.
1991 BX19 TZS 04/01/91 (Deceased)
1990 BX19 TRS 27/10/89 (Reborn)
1992 BX19 TXD (Ex UK - K 744 SDF) 15/06/92
1990 BX19 TZS Auto 06/11/1989
1992 BX TZD Turbo Estate (Ex UK) 1/07/91
1990 BX19 TRS 27/10/89 (Reborn)
1992 BX19 TXD (Ex UK - K 744 SDF) 15/06/92
1990 BX19 TZS Auto 06/11/1989
1992 BX TZD Turbo Estate (Ex UK) 1/07/91
-
- Over 2k
- Posts: 3224
- Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:14 pm
- Location: Dursley, Gloucestershire
Re: Difference Between 19 TGD and 19TXD
Yep, I don't have the figures to hand, but I think the 19D fuel figures for 56mph was somewhere close to 60mpg, while I can attest to the fact that at 70+mph (only on the Peage your honour
) it drops to around 40!

Mike Sims
BX 19RD Estate Mk1 - Timex!
BX 4X4 Estate - Oh god, I've done it again!
BX 17RD MK1 - it called to me!
BX14 TGE, - SOLD
XM Turbo SD,GS Club Estate,Visa 17D Leader,HY Pickup,Dyane Nomad,Dyane 6,2CV AZL,Falcon S,Trabant P50,3x Land Rovers (88" series 1,109" series 2a FFR,series 2a Marshall ambulance),DKW F7, Lambretta LD150 x 1.5,Mobylette SP93,Ural Cossack,Ural M63,CZ 250 Sport,Honda Varadero 125,lots of bicycles & tricycles including (but not only) Sunbeams,Higgins & Bates!
BX 19RD Estate Mk1 - Timex!
BX 4X4 Estate - Oh god, I've done it again!
BX 17RD MK1 - it called to me!
BX14 TGE, - SOLD
XM Turbo SD,GS Club Estate,Visa 17D Leader,HY Pickup,Dyane Nomad,Dyane 6,2CV AZL,Falcon S,Trabant P50,3x Land Rovers (88" series 1,109" series 2a FFR,series 2a Marshall ambulance),DKW F7, Lambretta LD150 x 1.5,Mobylette SP93,Ural Cossack,Ural M63,CZ 250 Sport,Honda Varadero 125,lots of bicycles & tricycles including (but not only) Sunbeams,Higgins & Bates!
-
- Over 2k
- Posts: 8406
- Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:10 pm
- Location: Derbyshire
- My Cars: 1999 Xsara LX 2.0HDI (90) Hatch - Fern
2002 C5 2.0 HDI (110) Estate - Jasmine - SORN
2011 Mini Cooper D Clubman - SOLD
2016 Mercedes A180D Sport - Auto refinement
1992 TZD Turbo - Bluebell - SORN
1992 TZD Turbo Estate - SORN
1991 Gti 16V - Blaze - crash damaged, will get repaired - SORN
1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
2002 Mini Cooper S - SOLD - i miss this car
1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014
1988 CX 25 GTI Turbo2 - SORN
1996 - AX Memphis 1.5D - Dream - SORN - x 8
Re: Difference Between 19 TGD and 19TXD
I would imagine its over 60mpg doing 56mpg, even better if you have a light foot, ease off the throttle early when coming to junctions, roundabouts etc... & stay in as high a gear as possible. Even going to work & back on a mixture of A, B & dual carriageway roads & usual traffic my TXD gets 50-53mpg
So on a long run driving at below 60mph, it will be v-economical.

2002 C5 2.0 HDI Estate - Jasmine - Now SORN
2011 Mini Cooper D Clubman - SOLD
2016 Mercedes A180D Sport - Auto refinement
1992 TZD Turbo - Bluebell - My daily
1991 Gti 16V - Blaze - crash damaged, will get repaired.
1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
2002 Mini Cooper S - SOLD - i miss this car
1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014
1988 CX 25 GTI Turbo2 - SORN
1996 - AX Memphis 1.5D - Dream - SORN
I'm not just a username, i'm also called Matthew.
2011 Mini Cooper D Clubman - SOLD
2016 Mercedes A180D Sport - Auto refinement
1992 TZD Turbo - Bluebell - My daily
1991 Gti 16V - Blaze - crash damaged, will get repaired.
1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
2002 Mini Cooper S - SOLD - i miss this car
1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014
1988 CX 25 GTI Turbo2 - SORN
1996 - AX Memphis 1.5D - Dream - SORN
I'm not just a username, i'm also called Matthew.
-
- Over 2k
- Posts: 3940
- Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:25 pm
- Location: Wales
Re: Difference Between 19 TGD and 19TXD
48mpg was my 1.9D average, though I managed 54mpg on a run once. I'm a bit of a foot-to-the-floor type though.
-
- Over 2k
- Posts: 8406
- Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:10 pm
- Location: Derbyshire
- My Cars: 1999 Xsara LX 2.0HDI (90) Hatch - Fern
2002 C5 2.0 HDI (110) Estate - Jasmine - SORN
2011 Mini Cooper D Clubman - SOLD
2016 Mercedes A180D Sport - Auto refinement
1992 TZD Turbo - Bluebell - SORN
1992 TZD Turbo Estate - SORN
1991 Gti 16V - Blaze - crash damaged, will get repaired - SORN
1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
2002 Mini Cooper S - SOLD - i miss this car
1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014
1988 CX 25 GTI Turbo2 - SORN
1996 - AX Memphis 1.5D - Dream - SORN - x 8
Re: Difference Between 19 TGD and 19TXD
In a n/a the throttle will always be flat to floor, i just lift off when the revs hit 2k when driving in eco mode, & if i want to get shifting a bit more then 3k & if i'm thrashing like this evening, all the way into the red, oops!!!
2002 C5 2.0 HDI Estate - Jasmine - Now SORN
2011 Mini Cooper D Clubman - SOLD
2016 Mercedes A180D Sport - Auto refinement
1992 TZD Turbo - Bluebell - My daily
1991 Gti 16V - Blaze - crash damaged, will get repaired.
1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
2002 Mini Cooper S - SOLD - i miss this car
1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014
1988 CX 25 GTI Turbo2 - SORN
1996 - AX Memphis 1.5D - Dream - SORN
I'm not just a username, i'm also called Matthew.
2011 Mini Cooper D Clubman - SOLD
2016 Mercedes A180D Sport - Auto refinement
1992 TZD Turbo - Bluebell - My daily
1991 Gti 16V - Blaze - crash damaged, will get repaired.
1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
2002 Mini Cooper S - SOLD - i miss this car
1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014
1988 CX 25 GTI Turbo2 - SORN
1996 - AX Memphis 1.5D - Dream - SORN
I'm not just a username, i'm also called Matthew.